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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986-03-26; Planning Commission; MinutesMBB'l'It«. OF: DAT! OF MBB'l'It«.: TIME OF MEE'l'It«.: MINUTES PLANNING CXHUSS ION March 26, 1986 6:00 E-.M. \) ~ PLACE OF MEE'l'It«.: City Coorril Oanbers ~ ~~ ~ ~ COMMISSIONERS \g,_ ~~ ~\ -----------------------------,-- CALL ro ORDER: 'lhe ~ting was calla::I to ot"der by <$airman Schlehuber at 6:00 p.m. ROLL CALL ---- Present: Cllainnan SChlehuber, camtissioners McFadden, H<1l l , McBane, Holmes , Harcus am Snith • Absent: None. Staff Members Present: Olarles Grimn, Assistant Planriing Director Dan Hentschke, Assistant Ci ty Attorney Michael Hol:m1iller, Planning Director Hike Howes, Senior Planner Clyde Wickham, Associate Civil Engineer PLmGE OF ALUX;IA!CE was la::I by Cllai rman Schlehuber. Cllah:man Schlehuber presented a Resolution am flowers to Ruth Stark, the Minutes Clerk. CXHn'Nl'S FRO! THE AUDIF..OCE ON ITEMS NOT LISTED IN THE AGJ!H)A None. AGEKlA ADDITIONS , D£LETIONS OR ITEMS ro BE CONTINUED A motion was passed to rEJ11ove Item t2) fran the Consent Calemar. A motion was passed t o awrove I terns t l and 3 on the Canaent calendar. 2) RISCUJTI~ ar INTENT!~ NO. 175 -For staff to lwtlgate the sale of aquaculture pi:oducts by Oorlditicnal Ulle Pennit in ~ Space (~) am Pui:;lic otility (PO) zones if the p.:oducts are grown on the -1-. If deaad feasible, this Resolution of Intenticn would allow staff to return to the Planning ca.iuion vi th dOCUDants fox: ,. Zulle code amerxlnent. O\arl• Grbn, Aui■tant Planning Di-ector, gave the preNnt.ation en thia it.an as contained in the staff Schlehuber McFadden Snith Hall Harcus McBane Holmes Schlehuber McFadden Snith Hall Ma::c us f't:'ear.e Holmes © X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MINUTES PLANNING cnt1ISS ION March 26, 1986 Page 2 COMMISSIONERS report. He explaine3 that the awlicant was requesting an extensioo of the Conditiooal Use Permit. Ccmnissioner ~en asked for the definitioo of aquaculture, and Hr. Grinm replied that it was ~imilar to fanning and was basically farming of products fran the sea. He indicated that sea plants could be include3. Ccmnissioner McFadjen state3 that she coold not find the def inition, and Mr. Grinm mentioned that the Cit:v allowed it to take place in sane zones. He pointoo out that it was in the Ccn:Htional Use Permit Ordinance. Ccmnissioner Snith questioned if there would be a store on the premises, and Hr. Grinm explained that it would be similar to the type of agriculture stands located around the Cit y. Mr. Grinm discussed what he envisioned the process would be. ~. Bill Hofman, 6994 El canino Real, SUi te 208-G, carlsbad, represented Sea Farms West arrl iooicated that this would be setting up a mechanism to allow them to awly for a C<Xlditional use permit later on. He discussed what was there and what the all)licant would like to do with r egaid to the surplus and emphasized that it would be anall scale, low traffic generating, carp3tible with the surrounding area, arrl have a small sign. Ccmnissioner Snith asked if it would include fish, and Chairman Schlehuber replied that in theory it could b<;! included. He stated that the investigation would cane up with a definition. Mr. Bill Dean, 765 Norma.my, 12, Leucadia, represented the Batiquitoo Lagoon Foumation, and expressoo his concern that these type of operations would not be desired in th2 lagoa, area and explained why. He indicatP.d that he was concerned that potential Z10ning changes could possibly cane about as a result of this and reccmnemed that ti'le camtlssion could all)rove it but also indicate that no .. vne changes and aquaculture wild life wou).d occur in the Baticpitos Lagcoo and other wild Ufe preserves. Omaisaic:ner McFadden stated that she would like staff to go ahead and suggested that they circulate it to ocher agencies for their if1"1t. 'l'he Planning Ccmnissioo adopted the following Resolution of Intention: RBSCUn'IClf OP lm'Dl'fIClf NO. 175 Dlll.ARING ITS INTENTI0-."11 TO 65ismER AN AMl!HlMl!Nr OF TITIZ 21 CF THE CARLSBl'.D IOIICIPAL CCD. POBLIC HEARINGS Continued Public Hearings 4) ZClr-187 -CITY OF CARLSB.~ -An anendment to the Zoning Ordinance to modify the City's ~J..king requirll'll!flts and standaids. Mike Hollu, Senior Plarmer, gave the presentation a, this itm u ca,tained in the staff report. He discussed the backgroun:1 of thia itan aid talked about lilhat staff found Schlehuber flt:Padderi Snith Hall Marcus McBalle Holmes X X X X X X :: X MINUTES out about other cities with regards to schools, golf courses, driving ranges and takeout restaurants. Mr. COMMISSIONi ~S Howes referrer. to senior housing am discussed SAND11G' s stooy am suggested that they change it to one for every two units. He referred to Section 21.44.010 pertaining to roan additions am alterations of 500 sq1Jare feet or less, ard recCJ1111ended that it be eliminated. He also referred to parking in the Village Redevelopnent Area am irrlicated that the City Attorney's office mentioned there was sanething about it in the Village Design Manual. Mr. Howes made reference to a letter fran Rick DlgineerirYJ am stated that staff felt the i tans were minor am could be taken care of aaninistratively. Olaicnan Schlehuber said that there were generally one to one parking requirements for seniors, am referred to ~r, exhibit he received earlier at the Design Review Board meeting which did not show one to two on any of them. Hr. Howes explained what it covered. Ccmnissioner Hall asked if the car dealerships had any input, am Hr. Howes replied that they did not. Ccmnissioner Holmes mentioned parking in the Redevelopnent Area 800 said that he wanted it clear that a,1y required parking that could not be gotten on the propettf up to 100\ could be d<ne through a parking district. Ccmnissioner Snith talxed about apartment P3rking and asked if it was necessary to have covered parkiny. Hr. Howes replied that there was nothing written in the Ordinance, but that it was a suggestion fran the Planning Ccmnission at the last meeting. O\airman Schlehuber opened the public hearing at 6:27 p.m. Since no one wished to speak, the public testimony was conclooed at that time. Cmmissioner McFadden indicated she would like to see the following deleted on page 2, lines 3-4, "provided, however, that any alterations or additions providing less than five hun1red 9(Jlare feet of additional floor~ ahall be exeapted fran this requirement." c.c.miaaioner McBane expressed concern that if saneone wanted to add a 200 foot patio enclosure to the back of that house arr! did not have a garage, it would requi~e a major renovation. He s •.,ggested sane flexibility for r•idential areas. C'mllliaaioner McFadden addressed line 13 800 said that she wa not happy with .25 beyom the .5 for the first ten unita and said that she felt it should be .3 She also uked about line 11 l/2 since she was not sure if they w.re asking for one enclosed unit. Olab::man Schlehuber suggested that they consider one poJ.nt a a time. MINUTES PLANNil'l, CXMUSSION March 26, 1986 Page 4 'lbe Planning Camlission recannended approval of the Negative Declaration issued by the Planning Director and adopted the following Resolution: RESCUrl'ION 00. 2524 RIDM4ENDING APPROVAL OF A ZONE CXDE AMDl:lMP.NT, BY THE REVIS ION OF TITLE 21 , ClfAPTER 18 , SUB- Sl!L'TI<»I 045 (e) ( 1) , THE REVISION OF TITLE 21, CHAPTER 21, ~ON 140(1), THE DEt.ETION OF TITLE 21, OiAPTER 24, SICTION 140, THE REVISic»,J OF TITLE 21, CHAPTER 37, SOBSICTION 100 ( 13) , THE REVIS ION OF TITLE 21, CliAPTER 44, TH! REVISION OF TITLE 21, CHAPTER 45, SUBS~ION 090(d) (2) AND TH! AOOITION OF TITLE 21, OiAPTER 53, TO REVISE ANO CLARin THE CITY' S PARKING Im;lU I Rl!MEffl'S • With the following modifications: 'ftle -n:lnents recannended by the Planning Ccmnissirn ;:,a voted oo during the evening. Camlission l't::Fadden referred to i:ege 2 and the change she suggested earlier for lines 3-4 1/2. Olairman Schlehuber reiterated Carmissioner Mc:Bane's concern about requiring substantial work for a resident if they add a snall patio. Ccmnissioner Hall irrlicated he would support it, Ccmnissioner Snith said that he could not support it, and Camlissioner Harcllf! asked for staff's recannemation. Mr. Howes irrlicated that staff originally reccmnemed that it be taken out and suggested adding the wording that it apply to non-residential buildings. Camlissioner l't::Fadden asked about including single fumily ooly, and said that she would even drop it lower to 250. A motion was paaaed inserting the words "for single fanily residences" after the word "however" on page 2, line 3, am changing "five humred" to read "three hun:!red". CaaiuiClll'lr ~en diecussed ptge 2, line 13, am auggested that the guest parking should go up to .3 beyond tm units. file also imicated that she would like to see one of the parking apaoes enclosed, not just covered. C'aaiuioner Marcua irdicated that she felt that staff in their diacuuiorw with developers needed sane roan to work t:111188 thing■ out, and asked for staff's opinion. Olarlefl Gr:iai, Aui tant Plaming Director, cannented that staff felt that they would like to aee at least one space covar.S but agreed with having sane flexibility. He added that thee ware acae projects where enclosed parking was not u attractive. tit. lbea indicated that staff only required an enclosed pr19t in certain aituationa and explained what they were. Ila aaid that staff preferred having flexibility of requir.S covered parking or garages on a caae-by-case baala. tie added that tal carports -re not acoept:able, tit. Qr: stated that 111011t cane in when apartmmta did not refiect discretionary action■• Schlehuber l't:Fadden Snith Hall 1-hrcua ~ Holmes Schlehuber l't:Fadden Snith Hall Marcus l'tBane Holmes X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MINUTES PLMIIIING CXNUSSION March 26. 1986 COMMISSIONERS Ccaliuioner &aith uked if it should be inch~ed, an:S Mr. Grimn rNpCnded that he didn't have any objection. Dlln Hantachke, Aaaiatant City Attorney, pointed out that fran a standpoint of drafting an ordinance, they did not CONlider th8 11111terial for con11truction an:l explained why. Ccaliuianer flt:hdden ccmnented that she would like one of the two required parking spaces be encloeed an:S that guest parking beyand ten units would be raiaed to .3. Ccaliuioner flt:hdden 19111\tionej that she felt sane distinction betwen apartments an:S Pro condos should be drawa, an:S i n:S icated that thi• was the way to do it. °'8iDlllln Schlehuber expreued concern about the flexibility factor and diacuued the distinctions ll'h«1 there wre Pro's and condaninhms. O\ah:man Schlehuber addreseed the issue of covered parking and uked what the other manbera of the Cannission thought. ca.iuioner Marcus disagreed, Camtissioner flt:Bane said he would •'-IJPOrt it, Camtissioner Hoblea -■ for t he covered non encloaed parking, Omniuioner Snith was undecided, and Camtiss i oner Hall indicated he preferred the covered pr,irldng. O\airman Schlehuber said that he was not for the enclosed parking s ince he felt the re needed to be sane flexibility, but he would a~t covered parking. Ocllllliuioner McBane suggested adding the words "c:,m, covered" after the words "1.5 spaces/unit" on page 2, line 12. Mr. HcMea indicated that they always required one covered per unit, and said that .s could be open parking. A motion NU passed adding the words "one covered" after the words "1.5 spaom/unit" on page 2, line 12. At this point, Michael Holzmiller, Planning Director, 8UIJIJ8Stad bringing forward the other public hearing ttens before cmpleting the discussion on this itan. A IDOtion WU passed bringing forward the public hearing itau. 5) Cl' 81-6(8)/PO(t91/SDP 82-J(~P<>INSETTIA VII.LAGE Alquaat for approval of an ed tentative tract IIIIP, a non-residential planned unit developnent, am en ed site developaent plan far the cmstruction of II ccaaucial shopping cer.ltur at the aout.ldll&t corner of Poineettia Lane and Avc"lida Encinas in the C-2-0 IIDn8. Schlehuber l't:Fadden Snith li!.l.i. Marcus fot:BBne Holmes Schlehuber l't:Padden Saith Rall Marcus McBane Holmes X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MINUTES PLANNING (lM(ISSION March 26, 1986 Page 6 Mike HOIMa, Senior Plarmer, made the preuntation on this ital u contained in the ataff report, 1.mlng a trans- parency to ahow the aita ard wll mape to ahow the prcpoNd project, He reviftl!SJ what had tranapired aid explainsd that the cmprcniae agreed to mitigated many fectora. He irdicatad that ataff had not approved the design ard architecture of the bulldinga. Mr, HolM9 alao mentioned that at certain portions of the project, the applicant calculated the parking r~iranents bMed on net, and that they needed to provide an ldditianal four parking apaou or reduce the size of the building. OCl!lliuicnu 911ith aaked abOJt the visibility of the aaut:henaoat exit to the main entrance, am Mr • Howes r•poncled that they would not allow any mourding or lardlcaping. ca.iaaioner Hall requested that Mr. Howes point to the buildinga llhere the architecture was not being reviewed at ' that tia. COniHioner McBane wm1ted to know how many lanes were in an:! out of tNl main entry, and Mr. Howes informed him that there wou d be three lanes. Coaiuioner McBane asked abOJt expanding it for two in aid tw-> out, ard Olah::man Schleoober pointed out that the applicant WM preaent and could address that issue. oa.iaaioner McP&dden queationed the name of the shopping center ard pointed out that there was another shopping cmt:ar kncMl u Poinaettia, Mr. Howes indicated that generally ataff did not get involved with the names of the project•. Michael Holailler, Planning Director, stated that there wa an adc!itional it.an that needed to be diacuHed, He irdicated that on page 3 of Resolution No. 2542, line 17, the Wltance "'l'he expiration date of this Site Develqaent Plan llhall be the 1MDe as for CT 81-6(8)/PUD-94," and aplaimd llhy. COniHicner 9111th ccmiented on the passibility of the traffic aignal being inatal.led later an:! wondered whether the developer ll0Uld pay for it. Clyde Wicllba, Auociate Civil Dlgineer, said that this -■ ccnUtianed. Olair:an Schlehuber opened the public hearing at 7:00 p.m. 111d i~ the invitation to speak, Nr. Pr-1 Delaney, 363' Jennings Str•t, San Diego, llllltiarm that thay workaJ hard with staff ard the tMahore Gudma Hclmtolmera Aaaociation am irdicated that he felt the left turn wu vital am explained why •. He ad·d.S that he could acc<lllllOdate four lanes for the •in entrmoe. 0.h•n Schlahuber asked if they preferred to have the on the •jOll' •tr•t, and Mr. Delaney repli~. that it ~ Safeway ard created potential danger •i •.:ea. @ MINUTES PLANNING CXMUSSION March 26, 1986 Page 7 o:.nissioner Snith asked if the service entrance was the southern entranc:e, and Hr. Delaney discussed the route the trucks would takP. Collllisaioner Snith won:!ered about probla'IB with trucks turning, and Hr. Delaney replied that there wouldn' t be any problans with it. Hr. Delaney pointed out that it was candi tioned that it would be what the City Engineer deaned necesaary. Collllissioner Mcl'aa1en asked Hr. Delaney if they would object to hydroaeeding vacant lots 8 and 9, and Hr. Delaney responded that they intended to pursue developnent of the8e lots right away, but would be willing to hydroseed them. Hr. Rusty Coanbs, Architect, 6595 Riverdale Street, San Diego, said that lots 8 and 9 would be part of the grading plan overall and that erosio.'1 measures would be taken at that time. Hr. Bill Whitworth, 7114 Santa Barbara Street, Carlsbad, spoke on behalf of the Hcmeowners Association and the owner and manager of the mobile hane park. He stated that they were grateful to the Ccmnissic-and felt that the amendments benefitted them enormously. Chairman Schlehuber asked Hr. Delaney how many Poinsettias wre in exiatenoe and asked if they were willing to change the name. Hr. Delaney replied that it would be a financial hardship to change the same, and explained that the other shopping center in question was known as the "Big Bear Shqiping Center" rather than the "Poinsettia Shqiping C.enter". camiissioner Snith pointed out a slight difference in the ~- Since r.o one else wished to speak on this item, the public t:eatia>ny •• ~luded at 7:10 p.m. CD!aiuioner Hall expressed concern regarding the northerly '11-ivevay and the left turn lane. He discussed another area with the same awroaches and said that he wculd like to uk the camtiuion to consider dosing the northerly left ham turn lane. Mr. Wickhma diacuued how Hr. Boman felt about it and uplaina:S that they would not know the effects until the aite wu in full operation. OClllliaaioner Slllith C<lllllellted that there might be sane artt aince that entrance was also a service exit. OClllliuicnar Ml:Bane poina!d out that if it was closed, it wculd uterd the pocket on the min entrance. OClllliuicnar Mchdden wondered how long it would be before traffic wculd be heavy enough where it wo., i1 need to be cloeed, and Mr. Wicld1!llll responded that it would depend on tb9 buildout and the vol\De. 0aaieaicnar Mc!'adden asked if it would be posaible to olON it &iring certain ti.11188 of the day, aoo Hr. Wickhmo irdica ': that it would be difficult to regulata. G) MINUTES PI.MtiING aM!ISSION March 26, 1986 Page 8 COMMISSIONERS °'8iD111111 SchleBJber expreaeed concern about interior traveling, and Hr. Wickham suggested that they monitor the acceaa, put up a bom, and close it if necessary. Ccmiuioner Hall pointed out that there would be a prcbl• with liability am explained what he meant. O\ah:man Schlehuber imicated that if the City thought it would be a prcblan, then they could require a boro and con!ition it without making it l'llllRiatory. Ccmissioner Mc:Bane asked if it would require recmstruction of the entire nedian "''hen that occurred. Ccmiuioner McBane imicated that if it was phased, he would like it done autanatically when the second signal was being put in. Olairman Schlehuber stated that he felt that the City l!ngineer could design it, am Hr. Wickhan cannented that the closing off of the northerly entrance could be done whalever it was deaned necessary aro the left ham turn would becane the median. Olairman Schlehuber said that he didn't thil"~ that the southerly entrance was tied in with it, aro Mr. Wickham pointed out that there was sane discrepancy between the applicant's engineer and the City's engineer. Olairman Schlehuber iroicated he would like to give the City l!ngineer the opportunity, and Ccmnissioner Snith added that he umerstood the atl)licant' s viewpoint and diacuaaed why. Olairman Schlehuber explained his preference. Collllissioner McFadden questioned what was meant by the four lanes at the main entrance, and Hr. Wickhml responded to her question. Coanissioner Hall also asked for clarification of the main entrance. Callllliaaioner McBane asked if a signal at the main entrclnce wauld allow a left tum am a u-turn, and Mr. Wiclmam indicated thrlt it would. O\aimian Schlehuber asked staff for their view on u-turns, and Mr. Wickha IININIKed that generally they did not like tlaa in this situation. CcmiMianer &Dith wnted to know if there would be a craa11ualk for pedestrima at the traffic signaling, 8iiflPIICJally at the main entrance, and Hr. Wickham respalded in the affirmative. flw Planning Ccmission adopted the '"llowing Aesolutime;: ltl8CUJT1~ 110. 2541 APPRCNit«; AN AMl!tl)J!D T!INTATIVE TRACT AiP 8 A D-ifsmM'IAL PLANNl!:D UNIT DJNELOIIMBNT ON Pll»DTI GINIPMLI LOCATIID ON THE ~ CXRmR OF l'ODIDft'l'IA LANE Ml> AVl!NIDA BlCINAS. UIU.U'l'l~ 110. 25'2 APPRCNING AH NmDU!NT TO SI'rB .I ,,· .... -."" iir.iii NO. 82-3, ro CXlNSTROCT A CXMIBICIAL IIDPOO Cllft'D CM PJD>IRft GINDALLY LOCATl!D ON TH! 800'l'IIIAST (X)JIIBt OP POINSBTTIA Uta:~ AVENIDA BlCINAS. Schlehuber Mchdden 9nith 1-lall Mllrcua l't:Barle Holmes © X X X X X X X X 1 MINUTES PLANlUl«, CXMUSSION March 26, 1986 Page 9 With the following modifications: Add the sentence "The expiration date of this Site Developnent Plan shall be the same as for CT 81-6 (B) / ~94 on page 3, line 17 of Resolution No. 2542. Add a condition concerning the possibility of closing the left tum lane at the northerly entrance when the City &,gineer dema1 it neceuary. Oiange the date fran "February 6, 1986" to "March ld, 1986" on ~age S, line 1, 121 of Resolution No. 2541. Add a condition requiring hydroseedirYJ on the vacant lots. Add a condj tion widening the main entrance to four lanes. Add a condition requiring four additional parking spao~s or reduce the size of the building. New Public Hearings 6) &>P 85-20/V-371 -FORSYTli -Request for approval of conversion of existing single family house and garage into offices at 2n-1 Jefferson Street and awroval of three associated variances. Charlas Grinm, Assistant Planning Director, gave the preeentation on this itan as contained in the staff report, using a transparency to show the site and wall maps to show the prq,oeed project. He discussed the three variances that the awlicant requested, indicated that the of f icP ll'OUl.d be a conversion fran a single family residential :..,e and discussed the parking requiremeuts and how they ll'OUl.d change if the Parking Ordinance was changed. Mr. GtiillD explained that st.,,ff could support two of the variances but could not s~rt the tnird varianoe regarding the 1.5 foot setback for the existing garage and explai ned why. O\airman Schlehuber camiented that he understood that the applicant had now pr opoaed to move the garage to sanewhere bahind the building, and asked if staff would agree to a cordi t ion to that e ~fiect. Mr. Grimn said tnat general:;.y ■taff could B'4)p0rt it. ca..iu ioner lillll uked about relocating thP. garage and llhether the parking for the garage was ita.. ... ooed in cal"'11ating puking. Mr. Gtinm indicated that it was incluclad. O.i-=-n Schhhuber opened the public hearing at 7 :31 p.m. an! i■--1 the invitation to spellk. Mr. Olne Forsyth, 2n4 Jefferson Street , Carlsbad, upreual hi• preference that t he project be a pproved with the garage u it wa. He added that the conversion fran thl e:deting building to the propoaed m e would enhance thl Village area. Mr. POrsyth described the s unouruing •• an.I ■tat.I that he wa wil ling to put i n a wall as requirect far fire hazard purpoaee. He added that if the Planning Ollaiulon fOUB1 that this wu not sa.tthing they couL1 Mk• an exmptioo to, they would g o along with awing the garage bahin! the hou•. I MINUTES PLANNING Oll'NISS ION March 26, 1986 Page 10 Ccmnissioner iit=Fadden asked if they would still need the first variance, and the applicant resporrled that they could be parking in the back but that was not the intention. Ms. Sandy Whitmer, 2774 Jeffersa, Court, Carlsba:3, stated that they wanted to get the project underway that evening and that they did not want to cane back again on the parking issue. Since no one else wished to speak, the public testimony was concluded at 7:35 p.m. Caanissioner Holmes indicated that he dido' t have any problems with it since the applicants were willing to move the garage. Olairman Schlehuber said that he would like to see the fnl>rOYaDents and explained that he could approve the parking setback variance in this case. Connissioner Mc:Bane indicated that he would like to see the garage relocated in the back arrl see the onsi te circulation fnl>roved for car•,; to turn arourrl arrl cane out frontwards • A motion was passed directing staff to return with dOC\IDl!l'lta granting these two variances ... id requesting that staff determine the best place for the garage and regui re that there be enough paved area provided for a car to exit frontwaros. Oloirman Schlehuber declared a recess at 7:50 p.m. The Cnmlission re-convened at 8:00 p.m. Caanissioner Mci3ane asked to be excused frcm the ,Uscussion on Itm 17. 7) ~3,&5 -CITY OP CARLSBAD -RsqueSt for approval of a zone change frc:a R-1-7500 to R-1-9500 f,ir prq,erties located between Crest Drive and Wilson Street to the eut and weat, and Forest Avenue and McCauley Lale to the north and south. Charl• Grillm, Assistant Planning Director, gave the preaentation on this it• as contained in the staff report, using a tran11p1rency to ahow the site. He dillC\IUa! the history of the project and reccmnended minor changu, including the inclusion of the Yada property and dillO.W-' the rftaBoning behlrd it. ~irman Schlehuber rp!ned the public hearing at 7:55 p.m. anS i....S the invitation to speak. MIi. J01111 SUffrecUni, 2635 Crest Drive, carlsbad, diatributa! han:Souta ard explained that they ahOWll!ld the CJMner■ in the ar•. She di8CU8aed the petition submitted to the 0-iuton ard irdioated why certain owners hadn't •i~ it. She mentioned that Hr. Jada indicated that he w:JUld be willing to go along with staff's requirement. Schlehuber X l'thdden X X Snith X Hall X Harcus X Mc:Ba....;. X Holmes X MINUTES PL.ANNI!«; COMUSSION March 26, 1986 Page 11 Since no one else wishm to speak on this item, the public testimony was concluded at 7:57 p.m. Ocmnissioner l"k:Fadden askm if staff had spoken with Hr. Yada, and Hr. Grilnn described the various atteq>ts made to contact Hr. Yada, including a written letter sent to him during the prior week. The Planning Cannissioo recannended the approval of the Negative Declaration issued by the Planning Director aoo adopted the following Resolution: RBSOLOTION NO. 2546 RECXJ1MDIDit«; APPRCNAL OP A ZONE ~E not R-J-7500 ro R-1-9500 ON PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED SOOTH OP F<mPS1' AVEllJE BETWEm CRE.ST DRIVE AND WILOON S'!'REET ~ I!C.ODING TN) PAOCELS BETWEm BUENA VISTA AVENUE AND PC CADLEY LANE. 4) ZCA-187 -CITY OF CARLSBAD -An aneooment to the ZOning Ordinance to modify the City's parking requirements and standards. Ocmnissioner McFadden referrm back to page 2, line 13, and in:Hcated that there should be .3 space for each unit in excess of ten units. ~ referred to her concerns about zcning and suggested that it could be reassessed later. Chair:man Schlehuber asked staff for their ccmnents, and Mr. H<M88, Senior Planner, indicated that staff felt that the .25 workm in the past an:! that there wasn't much of a differmce. Chair:man Schlehuber caanented that he didn't feel strongly either way, and Calllliuioner Holmes said that he had no d:>jectioo to • 3 Ccaliaaioner Mc:Bmle in:licatf!"l he preferred uniform atalnaJ:ds but thought that .3 was cloeer to .5. A motion wae pulled changing ".25 space " on page 2, line 13, to •.3 apace•. em.iHioner Hall uked what the public street stardards _.., and Clyde "Jickha, Aaociate Civil Brr,i,leer, indicated that they were 36' ard 40', depending on whether they WKe reflerring to a cul-de-sac or a local street. Cllaiman Schlet.Jber discuued page 2, line 19, and that in looking at it ainoe the last 11eeting, he felt that 1.75 alCJht be better. Ha asked staff why they originally came ~ with l.75, and Mr. HOW88 replied that i t had always beall the City'• standa!:d requirements. O.iman Scbltlhuber said that he felt they needed visitor parking, but that 1.75 should work. OCllaiHicner Harcus asked ebout the terminology for three or acre, an:I Mr. Hewes indicated they could change the wocding to that effect. Schlehuber McFadden Snith Hall Marcus Holmes Schlehuber Mc:!'adjen anith Hall Marcus Mc:9lne Holmes @ X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MINUTES ION March 26 1986 p 12 COMMISSIONERS Olllirman Schleoober asked the Callnissioners how they felt about 1.75 and one car for every bedroan, and most of the Carroissioners respomed that 2.0 was acceptable. cannissioner Holmes referred to line 19 1/2 and said that he did not agree with one covered parking space since he felt that in R-1 and R-2 zones, a garage was definitely needed. The other Callnissiooers agreed with him. Olllirman Schlehub& indicated that he agreed because if they required a covered space, it might becane a full garage. He added that people would then be using it for storage and it wouldn't be used for parking. A motion was passed deleting the sentence "At least ooe covered parking space ll1lSt be provided for each dwelling unit." oo page 2, lines 19 1/2 to 20. Ocmnissioner McFadden addressed residential care oo puge 3 and stated that she felt the requirement was too steep. Mr. H<M:!S explained that staff canpared it with a nunber of other cities in California and that was the average. Callnissioner l1cFadden suggested a mini.mun of one for every five beds, and that if more was needed, they could add oore by a conditional use permi t. Mr. Holmes agreed with Ccmnissiooer McFadden a, the basis of board and care. CCJnniss ioner Hall asked how many peq>le were allowed in a residential care facility, and Hr. Howes explained that it was detennined by the comitional use peLllit. Ocmniasioner Schlehuber expressed concern about lowering it becawse he felt people would then r.ane in with the ttlniman, and Mr. lt:::8ane discussed a facility in his area. Ulah:man Schlehuber cannented that he would prefer to leave i t, and Ccmllissiooer Marcus concurred with him. Comtissioner McBane quest iooed wtY.!ther there were or:dinanoes llhere the IUllber dropped down after ten beds, and Mr . Howes r espcmed that they hadn't see any. Ocmni ssioner McBane added that he agreed with Callnissioner Holmes that there was Eane deficiency if the facility was large. Since the majority of Cmmissioners agreed with what was outlined under Residential care, the Camlission decid~ not to cnange it. OclllniS1Jioner Hall referred to Senior Citizen Housing Projects ca page 3, line 5 , and said that he felt it should be at least two . A motic:a was passed changing page 3, line 5, to a minian of one &(:808 per every two units. Schlehuber McP'adden Snith Hall Marcus McBane Holmes Schl ehuber ~ Snith Hall Marcua =@ X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MINUTES l'L.A • ' 'lM1ISSION March 26, 1986 Page 13 COMMISSIONERS A motion was passed changing the word "Banlcs" to Financial Institutions" on page 3, line 9. Cmmiuioner McFadden stated that she felt that one spaoe/aq>loyee plus one for each 5 stooents for pre- schools/ooraer iee on page 4, line 15, was too steep, and suggested changing it to one for every ten students. Mr. Howes explained that staff checked with other cities and foun:! that Palm Springs an:! Irvine had those requirements. cannissioner McPadden indicated that classes rolled over an:! that one to ten stooents was sufficient, and the others agreed with her. A motion was made changing "one space/ell'l)loyee plus one for each 5 students" a, page 4, line 15, to "one spece/eq,loyee plus one for each 10 stooents". The motion was aaconded and opened for d iscusa ion. Camlisnioner Snith discussed his experiences at a school which had adequate parking and one that did not, an:! in:! icated that it worked better at the school where parking was a, the street. O\airman Schlehuber SIJ.J9ested inclooing a loading area. Ocaaiaaioner Hall said that he would add that a car still would be sitting there an!! that it would need affl)le apace to put a physical object on a lot. He added that at certain points of time, there would be a lot of congeetion. Ccmliaaioner Sllith uked what would hawen when an adult waa required to sign up a youngster inside the school and they would have to park the car. Oclaiuicner Marcua pointed out that they were talking about a paaaenger loading area, and suggested that one for five atudmta aade more eenae. Oclaiuianar MrB.lne discuued his expc::iences with the probl• am explaii.1 how it was more dangerous "111\ere thare-■ adequate parking. CcaaiuiMer lbi th mentioned that it would depeoo on where the IIChool was l008ted. Mr. Howa9 ccnfi~ that this would be covered wider a ccnditianal ua pc111it. OWiman Sct\lthuber told the group that he was concerned about lvlving the iaininun unl•• it was laid out. ca..J.uioner Marcus atated that to have that, they IIIWlt haw • IUlber of •i-o-for a l'Ullber of uni ta and adecplte drop off llha'I thay ~r• diacuuing the conditional uae pemit. Schlehuber McFadden Snith Hall l'l!lrcus fotBane Holmes @) X X X X X X X X MINUTES PLANNING (l)llf1ISSION March 26, 1986 Page 14 Hr. Grimn discussed the standards and the mini.nun an::1 suggested adding the word "minimlln". carmissioner McFadden added that child care facil1 ties were neede3 and that there were many places which they had adequate on street pBrking an::1 that one to ten students was adequate • Cannissioner Mc:Bane suggested that it was appropriate to add adequate loading and unloading facilities am the word facilities. Ccmnissioner McFadden in::'licated that she would add one to ten mininun arrl adequate loading arrl unloading facilities. A motion was passed changing "one space/eq,loyee plus one for each 5 students" on i:ege 4, line 15, to "one si:ece/eq,loyee plus one for each 10 stooents minimun.", arrl adding provisions for an adequate loading am unloading zone. A motion was passed to include loading arrl unloading for a ll schools. Hr. Howes referred to pBge 10 and s1.J3gested substituting the wo:rds "cannercial or in::'lustrial establi stment" with the words "professional or off ice". Cmmissioner HcBane discussed a possible problen with it, and Dan Hentschke, Assistant City Attorney, explained that the Redevelopnent Zone w-dS different. Caanissioner HcBane irrlicated that i:erking could be provided outside the redevelqment areas an::1 cited the exmple where in::Justrial uses could provide parking in residential areas. A motion was passed moving with 3taff's reccmnendation regarding page 10. Hr. Wiclchml indicated that oo pBge 9, line 21 1/2, after the word "sidewalks;", the words "or driveways" should be added. A motioo was passed moving with staff's recmmendatia,. Schlehuber McFadden Std th Hall Marcus Mc:Bane Holmes Schlehuber McFadden Snith Hall Marcus Mc:Bane Holmes Schlehuber McFadden Snith Hall Marcus Mc:Sa."le Holmes Schlehuber McFadden Snith Hall X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X I X X X X X Marcus x HcBane X Holmes X ec.niuioner Mchdden pointed out a typo oo pBge 11, line 10, and aaid that the nuooer should be "forty-five /.J.\I .l pucent• inateed of •fifty-five percent•. \!.Y X MINUTES PLANNING CXHUSSION March 26, 1986 Page 15 A motion was passed changing "fifty-five percent" on page 11, line 10, to "forty-five percent". Cc.~:nissioner Snith asked if there were standards for the standard car, and Mr. Ho.ies indicated they were on page 5. Cllllirman Schlehuber stated that Mr. Ladwig questioned why they would require that the itens outlined on page 5, line 2, go back to the Planning Cormission, and Mr. Howes indicated there was no proolen with sending then to the Planning Director. A motion was made to change the words "Planning Cormission" oo page 5, line 2, to "Planning Director". The motion was secorrled and opened for discussion. Camtissioner McFadden asked the Planning Director for his opinion, and Mr. Holmdller resporoed that this was the way it was being done now. Olairman Schlehuber withdrew his motion. RESOLUTICNS None. APPROVAL OF MINUTES The Minutes of Pebruary 5, 1986 were approved with the following corrections: The word "not" was inserted oo page 3, third line of the next to the last paragraJil after the word "were". The words •for the intersection of Hc::nroe and Marron" were added to the last sentence of paragraJii one on page 4. The maber "177,ooo• was substituted for the nuuber •100,000" in the first line of the seccxn paragraJii on ptge s. The words "and indicated they would be renoving -408 trees and planting 520 trees" were added to the last sentence of the sixth paragraJii on page 5. The Minutes of Pebruary 19, 1986 were approved as presented. ca..iuioner HcBane indicated that the words "inclooing the proposed project" should be added to the Minute Motion on Pl98 13 of the Minutes of February 26, 1986. Since the Minute• Clerk had to check her notes fran the previous -ting, this wae deferr to the next meeting. Schlehuber l'tF .:.-cde:, Snith Hall Harcus Mc:Bane Holmes Schlehuber McFadden Snith Hall Harcus McBane Holmes Schlehuber McPadden Snith Hall llilarCUS Mc8ane Holmes X X X X Y. X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X lt X X Pt.ANNI?«; CXHUSSION AOOBD I~ AND REPORTS staff MINUTES March 26, 1986 Page 16 Michael Holzmiller, Planning Director, indicated that the City Council did appoint the seven member cannittee for the Ongoing Citizens Cannittee. He pointed out that they needs! to select a replacement for Mr. Soi th who would not be serving again on the Planning Ccmnission. A motion was passed recannending Kip Mc:Bane for the Ongoing Citizens Ccmoittee. Mr. Holzmiller indicated that at the next Planr.ing cannission meeting there would not be a public hearing, but that it would be a workshop with a presentation oo all of the different studies going on pertaining to the airport, aoo the new growth management plant. Olah:man Schlehuber discussed a noise demonstration regarding decibels. cannissia1er Snith pointed out that there were two camti ttees which he served oo that would require replacements for him. Olairman Schlehuber selected Ccmnissioner Holmes for Olairman of the Hillside Ordinance cannittee, am indicated his preference to leave the other vacancy open until there was a new Planning Cannissioo llll'ld>er • cannissioner Hall asked about the PUD for the Hillside. A Minute Motion was made requested staff to cane back with a study oo zooe puking as feasibility. Cannissioner Marcus suggested allowing them a year for the report, aoo Mr. Hol:rmillei:: raninded the Ccmnissioo that they were goi03 to see what would happen with the beach area study. Cmmisaioner Hall suggested having pictures of scme of the projecta as were inclooed in that evening's Design Review Boai:d meeting. Mr. Hal.2111iller inHcated that on April 9th there would be a Growth ~t workshop, and that there would also be three pmlic workahope for input fr:an the public on it. O...irman Schleblber withdrew his motion for the zoning atudy. 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