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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986-04-09; Planning Commission; MinutesMeeting of: Hae of Meetin9: Date of Meeting: Place of Meeting: CALL TO ORDER: MINUTES PL~ING COMMISSION 6:00 P,M, Apr 11 9, 1986 City Council Chambers The Meeting was called to order by Vice-Chairperson Marcus at 6100 p.m. PLEDCE: Of ALLEGIANCE was led by Vice-Chairperson Marcus. ROLL CALL: Present -Vice-Chairperson Marcus, COfflfflissioners, McFadden, Hall, Mc Bane, and Holmes. Absent -Chairman Schlehuber and Commissioner Smith, (Chairman Schlehuber arrived at 6:40 p.m.) Staff Members Present: Charles Gri11111, Assistant Planning Director Dan Hentschke, Assistant City Attorney Michael Holzmiller, Planning Director Mike Howes, Senior Planner CITlZEN' S GUIDE Mike HolzMlller, Planning Director, made reference to a handout distributed to the Commissioners entitled "A Citizen's Gulde to City Planning" and thanked the individuals who helped in the formulation of the handout. Vice-Chairperson Harcus commented that the format was extreinely attractive. WORKSHOP ITEMS 1) STATUS REPORT ON AIRPORT STUDIES Hike HolZlftiller stated that Jack Koerper, SANDAG, and Rick Severson, Airport Manager of McClellan-Palomar Airport, were invited tonight to 11c1ke a presentation to the C01aisaion regarding the status report on airport studies which has been conducted by their agencies. Mr. Holzall ler gave the background leading up to this aatter tonight and stated that it was staff's feeling that the inronM1tion that ls being generated fr0111 the airport studies would provide the C01alssion with a better idea of whether staff needs to do a further study and if so, the lnfonutlon would for11 a basis for the study. Presentation by Jack Koerper, SANDAG. J.ak Koerper, San Di~o Association of Govern111ents (SAtt>AC), addressed the C~lssion and stated that SANOAG, as the designated Airport Land Use Coi.lssion for the San Diego gion, develops land use plans designed to protect the airport tr0111 ln00111patlble develop111ent. Further, a n\llber of ..pecial projects are done looking at the aviation laaue in general through n annual work progra111 funded b)' the federal Aviation Adnlini stratlon (FM). MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION ,\pr 11 9, 1986 Page 2 Mr. Koerper described S1'ND1'G's LT,\ program, a study whic~ looked at aviation develop,nent and land uses for all the airports throughout the region; more specificdlly, the noise contours for those airports and the land uses that were proposed ln and around the airports. He stated that the conclusion of this report relative to Palomar ,\lrport was that there appears to be no land use lncompatlblllty, However, he cautioned that there could be a problem ln tte fut11re if the appropriate noise contours and accident protential criteria are not taken into consideration as the Planning Connlssion and the City Council review develop111ent proposals around Palomar ,\irport. ,\nother item thdt S,\NO,\G ls currently working on ls dn update of the Conference of land Use Plan prepared for Pal0111ar ,\lrport ln 1974, The activities of the airport have changed since the adoption of this plan. He stated that 1t ls hoped that the paper work will be done in dral t f'onn ready for public review by the 111iddle of ,\ugust. S, n Diego County has provided S,\NO,\G with new noise contours for PalOl'ldr Airport which reflects an increase ln the nunber of jet operations and base aircraft. Mr, Koerper expldlned one of the features ln the land Ust Plan, the C01111Unlty Noise Equivalent levels (CNEL), and the dlffer,t methods that S1'ND1'G e11ploys these noise levels. ,\nother feature ls the accident potential zones, which are the areas around the airports that have the highest concentration of the airplanes. He stated that the purpose of this feature ls to ensure that the public ls aware that there 111c1y be potential for an ac~ldent or parts of aircraft falling off of airplanes as they use tte airport, which could have an impact on the ground. Because of this potential, SANO,\G atteinpts to reduce the densities underneath the arrival and the departure paths of the airports. In the update version of the land Use Plan, Hr. Koerper concluded, SANDAG will be using new noise contours, reevaluating whether or not SANDAG will stay with the existing accident potential scheme or whether a different sche111e 111c1y be approprlate--a question which the City Attorney and the 1'irport Operdtor will have to advise tht Coa11ission on. Further, the Palontar Airport Voluntary Noise 1'batenient Plan by the Palontar Airport Advisory Coaaittee will be included ln the ldnd Use Plan as infort11ation to the general public. However, SANDAG will not have the responsibility with regard to this noise abatMent1 the airport iaanager will continue to handle this ,aatt~r. Mr. Koerper pointed out that California La, does not provide SANDAG with the ..echanis,11 to deal with transient pilots, and therefore a feature which will not be in the plan are single-even noise contours. MINUTES PLANNING COfifo4ISSION April 9, 1986 Page J COMMISSIONERS Mr. Koerper informed the C0111111ission that one of the rule of the Airport Land Use Co11111ission which stated that any decision regarding land use in and around the airport could be appealed to the Airport Land Use Connission was deleted. However, the responsibility ls now placed on t local land use agency to ensure that all materials relat to any land use develop111ent within the airport influence area are referred to the Alrport land Use Connission pri r to flnal decision by the local public agency. Presentation by Rick Severson, Airport Manager, McClellan -Pal011ar Airport Rick Severson, Manager of the HcClellan-Pal0111ar Airport, addressed the C0111111isslon and spoke on the reasons why th 1974 Master Plan needed to be updated. Wlth the aid of map, he pointed out the surrounding land uses and showed where the second runway was to have been constructed; th s ls now an lmposslbillty. Hr. Severson gave statistics regarding the airport itself, I.e., the various uses, nt1111ber of airplanes, number of take-offs and landings, etc. Hr. Severson reported that they have an independent consultant who ls monitoring the single-event noise leve ln residential areas around the airport. This data, whl will be ln towards the end of Hay, 1986, will be useful monitoring future noise levels and to see what impacts t airport ls creatlng as the operatlons Increase. Hr. Severson circulated the Palomdr Airport Noise Plan, whic identifies noise sensitive areas. He also stated that they are working with FM on the Voluntary Noise Plan as 1 t relates to the single--event noise levels. He stated that the noise study being conducted by the consultant will also help to deter~lne the noise impaction upon changing the departure heading from 245 degrees to 250 degrees (a change that the airport is proposing that FM adopt for a 111c1jority of the airplanes at the airport). Further, the consultant will be giving lnfor111ation on possible locations and equip111ent for a permanent noise lllonltorlng syste. f'or the airport. This will enable the airport to target the airplanes which are creating a single-event proble111 and resolve 11 on an airplane by airplane basis. Mr. Severson stated thdt Palomar Airport ls a self- supporting transportation facll1ty; the user fees pay th entire operating cost~ or tho airport. He stated that h has an open-door policy f'or anyone needing any type of' help regarding the airport. He welc011ed the Con111lsslone to tour the airport's facilltles. At this tl111e, Vice-Chairperson Marcus opened the discussion to the Ca.aisslon f'or questions. COIMlissioner McFadden inquired of Mr. Koerper regarding the flight path of' helicopters. Hr. Koerper stated tha th~ ass1Nptlon ls -..de that there are three to f'ive percent helicopters operating at PalOllldr Airport in the new noise contours. He deferred to Hr . Severson. MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSIO~ April 9, 1986 Page 4 COMMISSIONERS Mr. Severson stated that the airport dld 1110nltor helicopter traffic and will publish a preferred routing for the helicopter transients, which will prlMarlly be Pala.ar Airport Road to the ocean. He 111entloned that one c0111pany, fol'ftlerly, Hughes Helicopter will be leaving the airport towards the end of December which 111c1y decrease the helicopter traffic. C«-issioner McFadden inquired of Mr. Koerper regarding whether the reduction of density which he referred to earlier in his presentation 111eant people density as opposed to building density. Mr. Koerper stated that the Airport Land Use Comn1ission would like to see both. He explained that tr lt ls ln the view of either the airport operator or the City that ls involved that the reduction of building density •lght lie a desirable feature of a land use plan, that could be included as long as there ls concurrence fr0111 the City Attorney and the attorney for the Airport Land Use C011111lssion on whether that can be enforced. C011111lssioner McFadden lnqulred who deals with c0111plaints about problem helicopt er noise and whether this lnfontation ls publicized. Mr. Severson stated thdt the lndivldual would call hl•, and lf lt ls during the evP.ning or weekends, a recorder takes the message. A log ls kept on all c0111plaints. He stated that lf he can pin do~n the particular flight, he contacts the pilot to find out the problet11 . If it ls a serious problem, then he will pursue it through the FM. Mr. Severson stated that although there is not a noise e011plaint line ldentlfled, the public can just look up the airport ln the phone book. Mike Holmlller, Planning Director. ,tated that Mr. Severson provides the City with a 1110nthly report which indicates the activities at the airport together with a c0111plaint report which shows the areas that COlllplaints oOMe fr0111 and how they were handled. Coiaissioner Holmes inquired regarding a stateiaent Hr. Severson 111ade in his presentation where he 111entloned that the li•it on the size of aircraft at the airport ls the 30-passenger size. Mr. Severson explained that this ls an FM ■axiMUM llMit. They are exclusively turboprop planes, Vice-Chairperson Marcus opened the discussion at this ti111e for questions froia the public . Barbara Donavan, 2630 Abedul Street, Carlsbad, Vlce- Chalrperson of the Pala.ar Airport Advisory COlllfflittee, expressed her concern on the rnnber of flights (180,000) leaving Pal0111ar Airport. She stated that thls C011111ittee has requested to be included ln the planning around the airport, because of the t.pacts that they reel are ooouring. She cited various ex.-ples which they have protested, She requested that when the Planning C°""'isslon considers new developiaent around the airport, that it ls not only the developiaent itself which will receive the !Jlpaot, but that the ai rport will also be l■paoted. @ MINUTES PLAHHIHC COMMISSION April 9, 1986 Page 5 Chaln11an Schlehuber arrived at 6:40 p.m. Ms. Donavan also stated that although there ls a Voluntary Noise Abate111ent Program, there ls no way to enforce this for single-event noise problems. C011111issloner l'icfadden inquired on the background of the C011111lttee. Ms. Donavan stated the Co11111ittee consists of a varied group appointed in an advisory capacity by the County Board of Supervisors. M,·. George Brissey, Solamar Mobile Home Park, a member of the Pal0111ar Airport Advisory C011111lttee, co11111ented about the noise study that ls being conducted by the consultant for Pal011ar Airport and stated that during the course of these studies, hardly any of the planes that went over his property had less than 65 decibles. Vice-Chairperson Marcus thanked Messrs, Koerper and Severson for their presentations this evening. 2) DISCUSSION AND COMtt::NTS ON PROPOSED GROWTH HANAGEl£NT PROGRAM. A. Developmental and C011111Unlty Facilities Management Program. Mike Holzmiller, Planning Director, stated that the above- mentioned progra111 was approved in concept by the City Council on March 12, 1986, and will be going back to the City Council for formal adoption on April 22, 1986. He emphasized that this ls one program which ls part of a much larger package of different prograffls that staff is working on. The progra11 ls divided into four major parts. (1) Division of Cltl into 25 Develofl'iental and C«-unlty Facll ties Management ones. ~lke Howes, Senior Planner, made the presentation as contained in the staff report, and with the aid of maps explained in detail the reason for dividing the City into three developaental status categorle, and the further breakdown of these categories into 25 develop111ental and c~nity facilities 111anage111ent zones. Mr. Howes also pointed out the different factors used in detert11ining the boundaries of the 25 zones. He added that zones 1-6 are in the urbanized category, zones 7-12 are in the urb~nizlng category, and zones 13-25 are in the future urbanizing category. @ MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION Apr 11 9, 1986 Page 6 (2) A Connunity Facilities Management Program to be done for each zone. Charles Gri-, Assistant Planning Director, made the presentation as contained in the staff report, and with the aid of a transparency map, he explained how this plan fits lnto the entire Clty process. He listed the factors that will be considered upon looking at an application from a developer. Hr. Grll'IIII explained how it could be possible that the Council would not fund a project if there are more priority areas which needs those same funds. He also explained how the annual monitoring program which provides continual update in data into the system would assist in deter•inlng the needs and the funding costs for each public facility on a yearly basis. Speaking specifically to the contents of the proqram itself, Hr. Gr!-stated basically the management plan is to make sure that public facilities are on line prior to develop111ent. With the aid of several transparency maps, Hr. Gri11111 continued his presentatlonn listing the various fdcllties and describing three aspects that staff will be considering upon reviewing these facilities. (3) Adequacy Standards Hike Hol .t111iller, Planning Director, stated that there were two purposes in attempting to establish adequacy standards: ( 1) In order to prepare the "what" and the "when" aspect of the program, the owner would need to know s0111e standard that they would be shooting for; and (2) to provide for a perfor■ance standard that would be used to 111easure development activity and deter111ine whether a certain level of servic•? or facllity ls being maintained at all times as the City grows. He stated that these standards are basically a refinement of the "benchlllark" standards that were part of the Public Facilities Hanage111ent Progra• adopted by the City in 1982. Hr. Holzmiller stated that in trying to analyze how to create a standard, they found that the services and facilties fall into three categories: (1) Things that need to be done before any develop111ent occurs in an area, i.e., sewer, water; (2) Types of services and facllltles that need to be provided with de■and, i.e., roads, drainage, fire, police; and (3) Things that affect the quality of life In an area, i.e., schools, city governaental facilities, etc. These services need to be c«-itted to within a specified period of time. @ MINUTES PLANNII-K: COMMISSION Apr 11 9, 1986 Paqe 7 COMMISSIONERS (4) How to use the standards and all the Information that will be enerated b these r o rams ln terms of makln t e prov sons Mi ke Hol zmiller, Planning Director, advised that ,herP wil l be a lot of Informat ion that will be gen~ratei by this program . Staff ls recommending that for each zone t hat has an adopted c011111unlty f acll 1 ties program that. t here be an annual monitorlnq report. He listed the types o:' Information t ·,at will be provided In the report. Staff will be able to Incorporate the Information from this report to analyze where l he City l s In terms of public facilties and the a111ount of development when an lndlvldual project comes In. Staff ls recommending that this annual monitoring report be given at the same time that the annual report of the ongoing Citizens Committee on the I mpacts of Growth ls given. Mr . Holzmiller advised that the City has hired a consultant, Fay Round, to see how al l this Information can come together and what the City needs to do to put it i n a format that will enable staff to go forward with the program. Mr. Holzmiller inquired If t hP Planning Commission wanted t o be Involved in rev iewing the C011111unlty facilities proqram for each zone prlo1· to ado..,tlon by the City Council . Commissioners McFadden and Harcus Indicated that tl,ey would. C01M lssloner Marcus made Inquiries regarding the breakdown of the City Into 25 zones. Hr . Howes expl<llned the criteria used stating that certain zones represent one propert y owner, others represent one master plan area, and so forth . There will be overlapping review of the zones on certain of these services. Mr. Ho lzmi l ler added that it ls Important to show a relati onship between the development In a particular zone and the standards that are required. By breaking It down into enough zones , you Cdn deflnJtely show a relationship that woul d va lidate this pc1rtlcular program. C~issioner McBane inquired why certaJ n areas were not broken down further to separate all special treatment areas and ex i s ting master plan areas. Hr. H0wes explained t he reason why staff dld not want to divide the areas i nto too 111c1ny zones . C~isslon,~r ~ane inqui red if staff had any comments on a letter r~cei ved from Mr. Ladwig regarding a zone. Mr. HolZ111 l ller stated that approximately f lve letters have been recelved on specific boundaries of the zones, and staff has not had an opportunJty to respond. Staff i ntends to s~arlze and respond to written requests wh en this matter goes back to the Citv Counc il for formal adoptJon. After the out line I s ctdopted by Council, staff wi ll begin working on a permanent ordinance t.hat wlll put this progra111 into pl ace. Th at ordinance will have public he•rinqs at the Planning Connlss lon and City Councll levels, at whi ch time, there wi ll be opportunities for public i nput . G) MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION Apr 11 9, 191'16 Page 8 COMMISSIONERS Chairman Schlehuber suggested that there be further clarification on the fact that the developer "'1st present a plan for "urbanizing" and "future urbanizing" areas, as this ls in essence no difference from when the Commission requires a developer to follow certain standards before approving a project. Comrni ssioner McFadden raised the following questions on various sections of the Growth Management Program -Draft Outline and Overview. Objective No. 1 -clarification on the phrase "concurrent wJth need". Mr. Holzmiller explained that there needs to be " -:::;;;.,iltment that a cert ain facility will be provided within a certain period of time. Objective No. 7 -why adjacent cities and the Junty ls not included. Mr. Holzmiller explained that although staff will not attempt to manaqe/control growth in any out~ide agency, they will be looking into coordinating with these outside agencies. Objective No. 10(0) -the word "exceeded" is confusing. Mr. HolLmiller stated that this ls an oversiqht and wiil be c¥nended to "rev i st:d". At t achment No. 6 -will the parks include senior citizens facilities. Mr. Holzmiller stated that this question will be included as a comment to the City Council. Chairman Schlehuber stated he concurred with Cormtissloner McFadden on this. Comrnissioner McFadden requested that open space be included in this list also. Attachment No. 7 -although the assumption is made that the individual will provide for gas and eiectrJcity, it should be included in this list. Corrmissioner Hall stated that he felt that the sanitation service should also be included in the list of facilities. Attachment No. 8 (Ill) -taxes that are generated for the general fund from any of the various projects should be Included in this section. Mr. Holzmiller responded to a question raised by C0111111issloner McBane regarding traffic impact in the zone areas. He explained In detail how staff determined that the percentage of impact would be 20,,. C011W11isslc1er HcBane expressed his concern that existinq residents in an area 111ay end up paying to solve problems created by growth because there ls no Incremental contribution. Mr. Dan Hentschke, Assistant City Attorney, clar If led that there wl 11 be lncret11e11tal con tr ibutlons from other program. MINUTES ',t~~~\ PLANNING COMMISSION "'prll 9, 1986 Page 9 O~ :,,...,_ ~\i ________________________ c_c_M-M_IS_SIONERS q,. ~~~\ ADDED ITEHS AND REPORTS Mike Holzmiller, Planning Director, advised that the Clt Council reappointed C0111111issioner Mc~a"e at its meeting last night, April 8. The Council :ontinued the appointment or the other vacant position to give them an opportunity to interview nl l the applicants. Mr. Holzmiller added that t he Council has approved the PUD, Daycare, and Hillside Committees, and requested tha~ the chairman or these committees contact him as soon as possible ~o select a date ror the first meetinQ. Planning COffll'llisslon Ch~irman Schlehuber stated thdt pldns need to be made to honor outgoing COPAissioner Smith. Commissioner McFadde welcomed the Ca.nissioners to hold the party at her home Mike Holzmiller, Planning Director, was directed to coordinate a date ror this event. ADJOURNMENT By proper mot ion, the Meeting or April 9, 1986 was adjourned at 7:47 p.m. Respectfully submitted, /_.,._ MICHA(L HOLZMILLER lf''Ptanning Director Elizabeth Caraballo Minutes Clerk EC:tc MEETINGS ARE ALSO TAPED MD KEPT ON FILE lJITIL THE HINUT S ARE APPROVED. ®