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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1987-06-03; Planning Commission; Minutes, MINUTES Meeting of: PLANNING COMMISSION Time of Meeting: 6:00 p.m. CORRECTED Date of Meeting: June 3, 1987 Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers COMMISSIONERS CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Marcus called the Meeting to order at 6:lO p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE was led by Chairman Marcus. ROLL CALL: Present - Chairman Marcus, Commissioners Hall, Holmes, McBane, McFadden, and Schramm Absent - Commissioner Schlehuber Staff Members Present: Michael Holzmiller, Planning Director Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director Mike Howes, Senior Planner Ron Ball, Assistant City Attorney Clyde Wickham, Associate Engineer PLANNING COMMISSION PROCEDURES: Chairman Marcus reviewed the Planning Commission procedures for the benefit of the audience. COMMENTS PROM THE AUDIENCE ON ITEMS NOT LISTED IN THH AGENDA: There were no comments from the audience. AGENDA ADDITIONS, DELETIONS OR ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED: The were no agenda additions, deletions, or items to be continued. CONSENT ITEM: DC 87-l - KATES - An appeal of the Planning Department's denial of a large residential daycare permit on property located at 4104 La Portalada Drive. Commissioner Schramm requested that this item be opened for discussion since there had been a request from the audience to address the Commission. There were no objections and permission was granted. David Duncan, 4106 La Portalada Drive, addressed the Commission and stated that he is a resident of the cul-de-sac where the Kates currently operate their home daycare facility. He requested Commissioners to reconsider their approval for a large family day care permit due to adverse impact to the community and cited parking violations, vehicular speeding, and general congestion in the neighborhood due to excess children being cared for in the Kates home. If the large daycare permit is granted, he urges enforcement to ensure that no more than 12 children will be permitted at any one time. Commissioner Hall requested clarification of Condition Hl referring to the permit being issued in one year increments. He inquired if there is a standard clause which states that the first permit is issued for one year and in five year increments thereafter. Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning MINUTES June 3, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 2 Director, replied that this condition varies on a case by case basis, and due to the controversy, staff felt that perhaps this permit should be evaluated on a yearly basis. Commissioner Hall then inquired how complaints would be handled. Charles Grimm replied that each complaint would be investigated by the Zone Enforcement Officer and if numerous violations were noted, the Planning Director could return the matter to the Commission for reconsideration. If the permit is approved, Commissioner Hall would like to see the last sentence of Condition #l changed to remove the one year requirement after the first year. Chairman Marcus would like to see the one year requirement remain. Commissioner Holmes inquired how many complaints would be necessary before action is taken. Charles Grimm replied that any complaint would be investigated and if a violation is observed, the applicant would be so advised. If notice to the applicant corrects the problem, no further action would be taken. Numerous violations would be brought to the attention of the Planning Commission. Michael Holzmiller, Planning Director, then stated Commissioners would receive a quarterly status report of complaints. Commissioner Holmes would like Condition 115 reworded to state that no more than 12 children will be allowed on the property at one time, including children living in the home and visiting children. Chairman Marcus also expressed concern about the wording of Condition 115 with reference to children enrolled at the daycare center. Charles Grimm replied that Condition 115 could easily be reworded to prohibit more than 12 children on site at one time. Commissioner McFadden stated that the revision to Condition 115 should state during daycare hours. Commissioner Schramm stated that she also understood there was an age limit and that the permit was being granted for preschool age. Commissioner Schranm remiuded other Cormissioners about the statement Hr. Kates had made about having all employees park on Porta Place to provide more parking space for parents and neighbors, and that frequently he and his wife also park on Porta Place. After discussion, it was decided to leave Condition Hl as is for the first year since quarterly status reports will be given to Commissioners. When the permit comes up for extension, if a change to Condition tl is warranted it can be made at that time. Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to adopt Planning Commission Resolution No. 2663 approving an appeal of DC 87-l to permit a large residential daycare center on property located at 4104 La Portalada, to revise Condition #5 to prohibit more than 12 children on the site at one time during daycare hours, and to add Condition #8 setting an enrollment age of 6 years or younger. Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schramm June 3, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 3 COMMISSIONERS Y Chairman Marcus announced that this decision can be appealed to the City Council by contacting the Planning Department at 2075 Las Palmas Drive. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1) CUP-304/SP-187(A) - LINCOLN SAVINGS AND LOAN Request for a Specific Plan Amendment and a Conditional Use Permit to develop a Lincoln Savings and Loan financial institution with a drive-through facility at the northwest corner of the North County Plaza. Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director, reviewed the background of the request and stated that this item was heard by the Commission on April 1, 1987. At that time, staff recommended denial of the project because (1) the proposed drive-through facility, being single trip oriented, is not a compatible use within a regional shopping center, and (2) the proposal reduced the width of a driveway and parking aisle below the standard deemed adequate for safe circulation. The project was returned to staff for possible conditions of approval and to attempt to revise the parking and driveway layout to meet circulation standards. The project's circulation system has been redesigned for one way traffic flow to reduce potential traffic conflicts at the southern entryway. However, even with the layout revisions which merely meet minimum standards , staff still believes that the proposed drive-through is an incompatible use within the context of a regional shopping center. Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing open and issued the invitation to speak. Ron Roberts, SGPA Planning and Architecture, representing Hughes Investments and Lincoln Savings and Loan, addressed the Commission and reiterated that since the last hearing he has resubmitted revised plans to staff and had been working with them to revise the circulation plan to meet the concerns of the Commissioners. He requested consideration in approving the revised project per the staff recommendation and stated that representatives from Lincoln Savings were here with new traffic information and able to answer questions. Chairman Marcus inquired if the new traffic information was substantially different that originally presented and Mr. Roberts replied that the traffic numbers were somewhat less than originally presented. There being no other person to address the Commission on this topic, Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing closed and opened the item for discussion among the Commission members. Commissioner McFadden stated that she was not present at the time this project was originally presented. She cannot support the CUP due to traffic and the use being inappropriate for a regional shopping center. Commissioner Schramm concurred with Commissioner McFadden. Commissioner Holmes cannot support finding #8 because of the additional traffic and feels it will adversely affect the surrounding commercial area. P ,T MINUTES June 3, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 4 COMMISSION Mr. Roberts desired to make some additional remarks and Chairman Marcus informed him that the public hearing had concluded but he could speak if there were no objections from the Commissioners. There were no objections. Mr. Roberts addressed the Commission and stated that the square footage of the center had decreased considerably since the original approval, thus producing considerably less traffic than originally anticipated. Due to the size reduction, he feels that the project is clearly a community center adjoining a regional center and feels that the Commission is overly concerned with a very minor item. He believes that the drive-thru will only generate six trips per day on a busy day. He feels that the circulation plan could handle ten to twenty times that traffic without any problem. Further, he stated that this type of use was anticipated in the original general plan which was approved by the Commission. Chairman Marcus informed Mr. Roberts that she does not agree with his interpretation of a community center and feels the project is part of the regional shopping center. Commissioner McFadden inquired of staff as to what would happen if the project is denied by the Commission. Charles Grimm, Assistant Planning Director, replied that the applicant can go ahead and build the project without a drive-thru facility, or they can appeal to the City Council. Commissioner McBane stated that he agrees with the applicants and feels that the center has become more of a community center and is not part of the regional shopping center. He can make the findings and does not feel that it will have an adverse effect. He feels the drive-thru approach is much safer for depositors than a walk-up and that traffic for a walk-up creates more of a problem because customers must park their car and get in and out of it to do business. Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to deny SP-187(A)/CUP-304. Chairman Marcus announced that this decision can be appealed to the City Council by contacting the Planning Department at 2075 Las Palmas Drive. Commissioner Holmes stated that he would be abstaining from the next item to be presented because he is on an advisory committee for the Carlsbad Boys' and Girls' Club. He left the room. 2) CUP 87-2 - CARLSBAD BOYS' AND GIRLS' CLUB - Request for approval of a Conditional Use Permit to allow the location of a mobile unit Boys' and Girls' Club along the west side of Centella Street, at its southern terminus, adjacent to the Christ Presbyterian Church of La Costa. Mike Howes, Senior Planner , passed out copies of additional letters which had been received regarding the project. One letter was from the Christ Presbyterian Church which Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schramm . r, ? MINUTES \ \ % 4 June 3, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 5 COMMISSIONERS indicated their willingness to share parking with the Boys' and Girls' Club. Another letter was from the Boys' and Girls' Club explaining their anticipated operation in more detail. Mike Howes reviewed the background of the request and stated that the original request for a mobile unit at El Camino Real and Camino Vida Roble was denied on September 17, 1986 because it was felt that the project had potential safety problems due to the location. This request is essentially the same but at a different location. The 1440 square foot mobile unit proposed to be located on a .84 acre site on Centella Street (a cul-de-sac) and would share parking with the adjacent Presbyterian Church. The use will include (1) a day camp operation, Monday through Friday, from 7:00 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. on a year round basis (limited to 24 children), (2) a "drop-in" after school guidance recreation program operating Monday through Friday from 1:30 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. (averaging 48 children), and (3) a Monday and Wednesday teen club from 7:00 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. for teen activities (10 to 15 teenagers maximum). He stated that this is a temporary location and that the operation will move to a permanent site in the future. Staff can make the findings and recommends approval. Commissioner McBane inquired why the hours of operation were not conditioned and Michael Holzmiller, Planning Director, replied that the hours were in the staff report but could be made a condition. Commissioner McBane stated that due to the closeness to the residential area, he feels the hours of operation should be conditioned to prevent late night use which might disturb neighbors. Commissioner Schramm recommended that condition #13 be revised to state that the facility will not operate on Sunday at all. Commissioner McBane felt the rewording should state that the facility will not operate on Sunday or when Church services are in session, since there may be Church meetings held at other times. Commissioner McFadden inquired about the number of children, the indoor/outdoor use, and whether outdoor lighting would be installed. Mr. Howes replied that outdoor lighting was not anticipated since the mobile facility will be a temporary use. Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing open and issued the invitation to speak. Bill Saylor, 4411 Springtime Drive, Oceanside, stated that he is the Executive Director of the Boys' and Girls' Club and urged the Commission's approval of this project since school will be getting out on June 22. He stated that the small size of the building precludes having teenage dances late at night because a majority of the unit is taken up by an office, restrooms, a pool table, and some computers. He stated that most of the children would be picked up by 6:00 p.m. and the only program operating after that would be a teen service club (Keystone Club) comprised of lo-12 teenagers which would meet on Monday and Wednesday evenings from 7:00 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. There will be no activities held outside at night. A , ? MINUTES June 3, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 6 COMMISSION Chairman Marcus inquired if the Church held services on Wednesday evening and if the teen activities would conflict with the Church services. Mr. Saylor replied that he was unaware of a Church service and that several of the teenagers already belonged to the Keystone Club. Commissioner McFadden inquired if the operation might be expanded at that location within five years and Mr. Saylor replied that the size of the unit would preclude expansion. He stated that the Club plans to begin construction of their permanent quarters as soon as utilities, etc. are available at the site, hopefully within two years. Although 60-120 children could be accommodated, they are limiting the numbers in order to provide a quality program for less children. Commissioner McFadden stated that she would like to see a row of trees adjacent to the two story residential units and Mr. Saylor stated he would have no problem as long as the Church were agreeable. She feels that the trees are a necessary buffer between the residential area due to noise which the children will generate. There being no other person to address the Commission on this topic, Chairman Marcus declared the public hearing closed and opened the item for discussion among the Commission members. Commissioner Hall stated that he feels there will be more participation than anticipated due to the close proximity to the school. Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to approve the Negative Declaration issued by the Planning Director and adopt Resolution No. 2661 approving CUP 87-5, based on the findings and subject to the conditions contained therein and, further, to (1) prohibit all activities at the facility on Sunday, (2) include the hours of operation contained in the staff report as a condition of approval, (3) require planting of a row of trees along the fence line adjacent to the two story residences, and (4) include the standard outdoor lighting condition in case outdoor lighting is installed at a later date. Commissioner Holmes returned to the meeting. INFORMATION ITEMS: 3) SDP 85-8 - KUBOTA - Request for a one year extension of a previously approved site development plan on the west side of Pio Pica Drive between Buena Vista Avenue and Las Flores Drive in the R-P-Q Zone. Mike Howes, Senior Planner, reviewed the background of the request and stated that the SDP was originally approved in July 1985 to construct two office buildings at the above location. The first building has already been constructed and the applicant is not able to pull building permits for the second building within the one year time limit. Staff feels that the project is a pleasant addition to the neighborhood, that there are no adverse impacts, and recommends approval of the extension. Commissioner Holmes inquired if the applicant has done everything required on the first building and Mr. Howes replied to the affirmative. Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schramm r‘ -Y MINUTES June 3, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION Page 7 4 COMMISSIONERS ’ \ Commissioner McBane inquired if the SDP was approved under the current parking standards and Mr. Howes believes it was approved just before the parking ordinance was changed. Mr. Holzmiller stated that the parking for the redevelopment area was changed three years ago. Commissioner McFadden remembers the original project and feels it is a good design. She consulted her file and stated that it meets the current standard of one parking space for every 200 square feet. Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to grant approval of a one year extension for SDP 85-8. 4) SIDEWALKS REQUIRED - Request for approval of a hillside street designation for sidewalk purposes. Clyde Wickham, Associate Engineer, reviewed the background of the request and stated that this is a deletion of sidewalk requirements on certain streets in the La Costa area that the Engineering Department feels are impractical for installation of sidewalks on the downhill side. The three streets affected are Esturion Street, Altiva Place, and Segovia Way. Chairman Marcus inquired if this request had already been reviewed by the Traffic Commission and Mr. Wickham stated that the Planning Commission was the first stop. Commissioner Holmes inquired if the areas affected were strictly hillside and Mr. Wickham replied to the affirmative. Commissioner McFadden inquired if other streets are anticipated and Mr. Wickham replied that there are other streets coming which fit into the hillside and the rural designations. She stated that the view from Cadencia is beautiful, however, she realizes that if a sidewalk were constructed, because of the steepness it would require a fence to prevent injuries. Motion was duly made, seconded, and carried to approve the request by the Engineering Department for hillside street designations, for sidewalk purposes, on Esturion Street, Altiva Place, and Segovia Way. MINUTES: Commissioner McFadden requested that the minutes of May 20, 1987 be corrected on page 11, paragraph 8, to read I1 . ..May 20, 1987, and to require applicant to provide landscaping and maintenance of the center median." The Planning Commission approved the minutes of May 20, 1987 as corrected.. Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schramm Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schramm Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schraaun K K K K K Y Y K K K c K June 3, 1987 r‘ MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION Page 8 ADJOURNMENT: By proper motion, the meeting of June 3, 1987 was adjourned at 7:08 p.m. Respectfully submitted, . MICHAEL HOLZMILLER" Planning Director BETTY BUCKNER Minutes Clerk MINUTES ARE ALSO TAPED AND KEPT ON FILE UNTIL THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. Hall Holmes Marcus McBane McFadden Schramm