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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1984-04-09; Traffic Safety Commission; MinutesMINUTES * r Meeting of: TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION Time of Meeting: 3:OO p.m. Date of Meeting: April 9, 1984 Place of Meeting: Council Chambers CALL To ORDER: The meeting was called to order by Chairman Punches at 3:05 p.m. A. ROLLCALL: Present: Chairman Punches, Comnissioners Wood, Melideo and Harkins. Absent: Comnissioner O'Day. Staff Menkers present: Steve Tisdale, EYoject Manager Ron Beckman, City Engineer Vince Jimno, Police Chief Marty Bournan, Traffic Consultant B. APPFVXUOFMINUTFS: The Minutes of the March 5, 1984, Meeting were approved as presented. C. REPORT ON ACTION F!EQUESTED AT PREVIOUS MEETING: Steve Tisdale, Project Manager, reported the crosswalk on Pi0 Pic0 and Los Floras had been marked and the school legends on the pavement. Aircraft was designinq a left-turn lane and the Kelly School signs have been installed. He stated Huqhes D. INE'0FMATIa;IALITEMS: 3. crosswalk. Harding and Oak - request for painted yellow Steve Tisdale gave the CoMnissioners a mpy of a letter received today from Jack Ji.n~nink. Mr. Jack Jimnink, 1435 Chestnut Avenue, addressed the Comnission on this item, stating a stop sign is necessary as we11 as the crosswalk marking. there is a bingo game on Saturday evenings, and there have been accidents involving cars trying to enter or cross the north and south Harding Street traffic. He stated Ron Beckman stated the stop siqn had not been discussed by the Coordinating Cornittee, and should be brought back as a new issue after discussion and study. Cdssioner Harkins stated he would like mre information about this stop sign, before any action would be taken. There was a discussion that the crosswalk could become an invisible crutch for the seniors and create a hazard. Ron Beckman stated the two-sided R-49 signs should be installed and staff should look at the issue of the crosswalk in context'with the stop sign. Punches mod Melideo Harkins X X X X MINUTES The Traffic Safety Conmission asked staff to look into the traffic (both pedestrian and vehicle) at Harding and Oak and mne up with a reammendation to be brought back to the next Traffic Safety Comnission meeting. 6. School Safety Patrol Limit Lines. Mr. Steve Ahle, Principal of Pine School, addressed the Comnission on this item, stating with the patrol limit line at 50 feet from the intersection, the mtorists were amfused as to where to stop, and were stopping at the patrol line and not stopping at the corner stop sign. He stated with the students closer to the stop signs, it was easier to see the students and the stop signs and less confusing. Steve Tisdale reported that with the students closer to the stop sign and the crosswalk, the results were mch better. This was four to ten feet back from the crosswalk. stopping in back of the limit line would be issued a citation. It was further stated that anyone not Police Chief Jho stated the 50 feet was certainly too far back and mnfusing. children as close to the intersection as possible, and would also like to see the children in the street and not on the curbing. the mtorist is certain he is to stop. He concluded, stating he was amfortable with the four to ten feet. He stated he wanted the If the hildren are in the street, Staff stated the 50 feet was used as the limit due to the speed andition. children would have to be pulled back that far for safety. There are certain places where the Steve Tisdale stated he would inform the Conmission on this item as to haw the four to ten feet worked cut. 5. Various speed zones. Police Chief Jho stated the 30 mph limit reamended for State Street is too high, and he would prefer 25 rnph speed limit in that area. Marty BauMn stated that is a business district and falls under the vehicle de as a 25 mph area. people are driving faster in that area. However, The Traffic Safety Comnission voted to enforce a 25 mph speed limit on State Street between Grand and Carlsbad Boulevard. Police Chief Jimn0 discussed the speed Limit on Palomar Airport Road between Carlsbad Boulevard and Paseo Del Norte, and stated he felt even the 45 mph speed limit was too high. Punches mcd Melideo Harkins Punches mod Melideo Harkins April 9, 1984 MINUTES Page 3 y\\\ COMMISSIONERS \ Staff discussed this item, stating that soon there will be oonstruction in that area, hi& will decrease the speed to 25 mph. in that area is 55 mph, as there are no speed limit signs there. lowered for the ooming construction in the area, it will never return to the 55 mph. At the present the, the speed limit Staff agreed that once the speed limit is By proper mtion, the Meeting was adjourned at 3:36 p.m. Respectfully submitted, H‘arriett Babbitt, Minutes Clerk