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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1984-11-05; Traffic Safety Commission; MinutesJ MINUTES Meeting of: TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION Time of Meeting: 3:OO p.m. Date of Meeting: November 5, 1984 Place of Meeting: City Council Charnbers F\Y COMMISSIONERS CALL 'Io ORDER The meeting was called to =der by Chairman Punches at 3:05 p.m. ROLL CALL: Present: Chairman Punches, Comnissioners Wood and Melideo. Conmissioner O'Day arrived at 3:22 p.m. Absent: Conmissioner Harkins. Staff Members present: Steve Tisdale, Project Manager Police Chief Jk APPROVAL OF MlXWlE!S: The Minutes of the October 1, 1984, Meeting were approved as presented. 2. Pedestrian Amraisal prosram Steve Tisdale reported on this item, referring to the copy of the report each Cdssioner had in hand. (Minutes Clerek did not have a am). He read through the report with the Cdssion and smnarized the report, saying that public education needs mre attention, and although the pedestrian injuries increased, Carlsbad still conpares favorably with areas of a similar size. Mr. Tisdale ooncluded, saying that overall the City did better than last year. He asked the Comnissioners to review the report and bring comnents to the next meeting. Mr. Tisdale also reported that there will be a full-time Traffic Engineer in the near future, and that will be the first time the City will have such an errployee. REPORT ON ACTION RWUESTED AT PRevIouS MEETING: Steve Tisdale reported on the actions taken since the last meeting, saying that all actions have either been conpleted or workorders have been issued for them. Mr. Tisdale also reported that raised pavement markers have been installed in several areas of the City. INEOF&IATIONAL ITEMS: 1. San Diego Smog and Traffic. A presentation by Beniamin E. Smith. Mr. Smith read from the mpy of his sumnary report dated November 5, 1984, a oopy of which is part of the record. Mr. Smith stated that California is now last as far as the amount per capita inm that is spent on roads. Years ago California was first, as all finances raised from transportation were put back into transportation. Punches wood Melideo IC- - MINUTES November 5, 1984 COMMISSIONERS Page 2 Ten or twelve years ago legislation was passed allawing transportation funds to be used for general purposes. This will result in the estimated traffic and transportation costs as listed on the final page of Mr. Smith's report. Mr. Smith cKnrmented that in five years, he predicts the driving time will be one half hour mre between Carlsbad and San Diego, due to the uxgestion 061 the highway. Mr. Smith felt that with only El Camino Real north and south and Palomar Airport Road east and west, that Carlsbad will have a traffic problem. Chairman Punches reported the Circulation Element had been revised and every time arterials are planned, there is apposition from the public. Mr. Smith suggested that all intersections with El Cdno Real and Palomar Airport Road should be through traffic, with underpasses and overpasses. There was a short discussion about the different streets that are planned for developnent throughout the City. ACTION ITEMS: Election of Officers Chairman Punches dnated Comnissioner wood as new Chairman for the Traffic Safety Comnission. Melideo seconded the nomination and the vote was unanimous. Cornnissioner Cdssioner Wood rmminated Cdssioner O'my as Vice- Chairman, with Chairman Punches seconding the nomination. The vote was unanimous. 1. stm or laruer stm sians. Fdinburgh & Glasgow - Requ est for either a four-way The Cdssioners had all visited the site and were there in the afternoon from 3:30 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. Mr. Markham re-stated his request as contained in his original letter. Marty Eloman's memorandum dated November 5, 1984. Chairman Punches stated he agreed with Mr. David Stoffel, 4705 Edinburgh, stated he was shocked at the reaxmendation to replace the stap sign with a yield sign. newspapers and Council Members, and if this matter goes to the Council, he will petition against this remmendation. His main reason was safety and he felt the traffic study has flaws. Mr. Stoffel said this area is in a state of flux and he felt a yield sign would create extreme danger for anyone trying to walk across that intersection. He mmented he had written to the Chairman Punches reminded the gentlemen that the violators were the peaple living in that area, and perhaps the local residents there should do .some educating about the stop signs. MINUTES November 5, 1984 Page 3 COMMISSIONERS Comnissioner O'Day stated larger signs would not help. He suggested the Conmission could do nothing; install a four-way stop (which does rot meet the warrants); install the yield sign, or make a three-way stop. Comnissioner Melideo stated she is opposed to yield signs in residential areas. She recomnded a three-way stop. The Comnission discussed different solutions for this corner and Steve Tisdale read staff's reconmendation changing the stcp sign on the north leg to a yield sign and installing a stop sign cn the east leg. Steve Tisdale suggested a letter be written to the homeowners association requesting the people to be careful and obey the law. Police Chief Jho stated there are five men on the Police force &IO deal with traffic, and the volume at this intersection is fairly small. The violators are the neighbors-it is a behavioral problem, Mr. Stoffel asked for an answer about the three stop signs. He ackmwledged the traffic patterns will be changing as mre homes are built. rather see the intersection as it is now and come back when the traffic patterns are mre set. sign would create problem. He stated he wwld He felt a yield Mr. Markham asked for a warning sign of "stop sign ahead" and staff answered thse are used only where there is a sight distance problem. "stop" on the pavement. There is a bar and the word Comnission voted to leave this intersection as it is at the present time, with Glasgaw stopping for Edinburgh. Conmissioner Melideo mde a notion to study this intersection with a new traffic study naw, and patrol the intersection, and bring this matter back before the Comnission for a possibility of other mtrols. Comnissioner O'Day seconded this mtion. 2. lane. Tamarack & Kirkwall - Fequ est for a right turn only - Chairman Punches read the discussion on this item. Mr. Stoffel suggested some of the slope auld be cut down to help the visibility at the corner. stated they had viewed this corner, and the bushes needed to be trbd--one bush particularly. stated the City would trim the bushes. The Comnissioners Steve Tisdale Cdssion appmved staff reconmendation of no change at this intersection at the present time, denying the request for a right-turn only lane on Tamarack. l3y proper mtion, the meeting of November 5, 1984, was adjourned at 4:31 p.m. Minutes Clerk Punches wood Melideo O'Day Punches mod Melideo O'Day Punches wood Melideo O'Day $ - X X X K K K K K K K K K K K